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meatman 02-26-2009 02:46 PM

Pelosi throws cold water on weapons ban
 
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/...009-02-26.html

By Mike Soraghan
Posted: 02/26/09 11:59 AM [ET]

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi tossed cold water on the prospect of reinstating the assault weapons ban, highlighting Democrats� reluctance to take on gun issues.

Attorney General Eric Holder raised the prospect Wednesday that the administration would push to bring back the ban. But Pelosi (D-Calif.) indicated on Thursday that he never talked to her. The Speaker gave a flat �no� when asked if she had talked to administration officials about the ban.

�On that score, I think we need to enforce the laws we have right now,� Pelosi said at her weekly news conference. �I think it's clear the Bush administration didn�t do that.�

Outside of the dig at the recent Republican president, that phrase is the stock line of those who don�t want to pass new gun control laws, such as the National Rifle Association.

The White House declined to comment on Holder's remarks, referring reporters to the Department of Justice. The DoJ did not respond to The Hill's request for comment.

gpond 02-26-2009 02:50 PM

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Pelosi is our hero? Huh? Hmm.. Wow.

JJ_ 02-26-2009 02:52 PM

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Pelosi throws cold water on weapons ban


WHAT???:shocked_ma:


I can't believe that.... unless she's just feeling outmanuvered...

meatman 02-26-2009 02:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gpond (Post 1595592)
Pelosi is our hero? Huh? Hmm.. Wow.

either its a trick

or they are scared shitless because of the firearms sales over the last few months

Private_Pyle 02-26-2009 02:55 PM

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I think she knows it's a loser of an issue for them. They have won seats on the house the last two elections, but if guns become a front burner issue again, odds are they will give some back.

The AG can talk all he wants, I doubt congress will take action.

Twisted Avatar 02-26-2009 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by meatman (Post 1595597)
either its a trick

or they are scared shitless because of the firearms sales over the last few months

The Fish has spoken..........

budfox 02-26-2009 02:58 PM

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I think even as dumb as Pelosi is, even she realized they better reign in the monkey before he goes off the reservation. The natives will only take so much before they get restless.

JJ_ 02-26-2009 02:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1595604)

The Fish has spoken..........

LOL


JJ_ 02-26-2009 03:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by budfox (Post 1595607)
.....The natives will only take so much before they get restless.


TOO LATE


I was asked by a sheep just today about buying an assault rifle -

Dawg 02-26-2009 03:04 PM

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I think Pelosi likes to be on top. Did ya notice how many times she got up and down during Obama's speech the other night. :yippee:

budfox 02-26-2009 03:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dawg (Post 1595621)
I think Pelosi likes to be on top. Did ya notice how many times she got up and down during Obama's speech the other night. :yippee:

Did you mean on top of Hillary??:bear_tongue:

MetalManiac 02-26-2009 03:09 PM

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http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y24...Its_a_trap.jpg

Twisted Avatar 02-26-2009 03:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ ShortStroke (Post 1595608)

THIS ONE HAD ME DYING!!!!!!!!!



Roland30 02-26-2009 03:16 PM

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What is real?...what isn't?...thats the question that I often
ask myself when things like this happen.

Do they all use the same play book or not?..I thought
they did.

And if they do why even use a play like this?

Gun sales through the roof.

Strong rumors of some kind of ban.

Then it gets shut down.

Very interesting...

smullen 02-26-2009 03:36 PM

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At this point, I'll take any good news I can get about the 2A... Or less than bad news maybe more accurate...

I'd still like to not add 3-4 items to the family...

End of Hope 02-26-2009 03:38 PM

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W....T....F?!?!

She must be TERRIFIED she won't be Speaker...or even a Member of Congress...after the 2010 elections, when people react to the Obamanation Tyranny.

GoldWampum 02-26-2009 03:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by meatman (Post 1595597)
either its a trick

or they are scared shitless because of the firearms sales over the last few months


I choose door number 2.

Quote:

Originally Posted by End of Hope (Post 1595692)
W....T....F?!?!

She must be TERRIFIED she won't be Speaker...or even a Member of Congress...after the 2010 elections, when people react to the Obamanation Tyranny.

Yep. Issue is too hot for these pansies. Let's keep the heat on.

smullen 02-26-2009 03:58 PM

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Firearms sales are the only thing up... If they put their foot down on that, it may all just go down the drain.... Firearms and PMs....

TLM 02-26-2009 04:13 PM

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Pelosi has a huge ego.. it could be she just got pissed that she wasn't "in" on it.
If it comes up again it will be Pelosi approved before it sees the light of day.

mick silver 02-26-2009 04:19 PM

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this would just take the cover of dark , we well not see it till it done , that how our government works now

moreair 02-26-2009 04:34 PM

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This might be the biggest shell game of the year. It's the old "which hand is it in" trick, something is up! This is just not like her to say no to such a liberal wet dream. Maybe she is just satisfied that her marsh mouse is taken care of to the tune of 20 MILLION DOLLAS

Twisted Avatar 02-26-2009 05:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lost_in_Samoa (Post 1595789)
She does not want to disturb the frog into jumping out of the boiling pot TOO early.

Time is on her side. They can whittle away at us for decades to come. Why hurry?

Because the biggest financial meltdown in history is taking place while the populace is the most heavily armed in the world.

That is NOT a good combo.........and they know it.

They will move on this .......QUICKLY


T

AurumAg 02-26-2009 06:24 PM

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“On that score, I think we need to enforce the laws we have right now,” Pelosi said at her weekly news conference. “I think it's clear the Bush administration didn’t do that.”

Which un-enforced laws is she referring to?

hypervel 02-26-2009 07:01 PM

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IIRC, Pelosi sed she wouldn't take on 2nd back in '06. (Smart policy)
Follow the money right, Mdm. Speaker? Yup, It's going from the people to arms manufacturers. Easy math, even for our fearless leaders.

latitude22 02-26-2009 07:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AurumAg (Post 1596037)
�On that score, I think we need to enforce the laws we have right now,� Pelosi said at her weekly news conference. �I think it's clear the Bush administration didn�t do that.�

Which un-enforced laws is she referring to?

I'm not sure to be honest, but i have heard similar statements from NRA and like groups when arguing about new gun laws. I would be curious to know as well.

Bx3 02-26-2009 07:29 PM

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Anyone getting the idea that this administration likes to float policy polls by having an underling make a comment on it? Remember the mileage tax that got the kabash within hours of its announcement? They are probing our defenses folks.

They may be trying to elicit a response from the general public before they commit, which is like sticking your wet finger in the wind. (Cowards)

From all of the responses I have been reading on the net, not to mention the response from my peers in uniform, they may have bitten off more than they can chew and now they are back pedaling. Either way, we will be ready. Stay vigilant.

latitude22 02-26-2009 07:34 PM

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Yea that is very true Bx3, maybe that is the way the new regime plans on doing business. Float it out there see if people start throwing eggs, if not ram it on through.

thomaspaine 02-26-2009 08:23 PM

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Simple,


People in government would not only be fools, but braindead idiots if they
did not take the steep rise in gun sales as a very big SHTF warning sign.

budfox 02-26-2009 08:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bx3 (Post 1596188)
Anyone getting the idea that this administration likes to float policy polls by having an underling make a comment on it? Remember the mileage tax that got the kabash within hours of its announcement? They are probing our defenses folks.

They may be trying to elicit a response from the general public before they commit, which is like sticking your wet finger in the wind. (Cowards)

From all of the responses I have been reading on the net, not to mention the response from my peers in uniform, they may have bitten off more than they can chew and now they are back pedaling. Either way, we will be ready. Stay vigilant.

Yep, does that remind you of the other administration that governed by polls??

Twisted Avatar 02-26-2009 08:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bx3 (Post 1596188)
Anyone getting the idea that this administration likes to float policy polls by having an underling make a comment on it? Remember the mileage tax that got the kabash within hours of its announcement? They are probing our defenses folks.

They may be trying to elicit a response from the general public before they commit, which is like sticking your wet finger in the wind. (Cowards)

From all of the responses I have been reading on the net, not to mention the response from my peers in uniform, they may have bitten off more than they can chew and now they are back pedaling. Either way, we will be ready. Stay vigilant.

Very well said :ok:


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<SLV> 02-26-2009 09:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by meatman (Post 1595597)
either its a trick

or they are scared shitless because of the firearms sales over the last few months

BINGO. They don't want a run on firearms like they saw from the election scare. You can bet they are working on it behind the scenes quietly. Just like I got a call at 6:00 a.m. in the morning commanding me to shut down my penny business -- no warning at all.

Elvis 02-26-2009 09:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AurumAg (Post 1596037)
�On that score, I think we need to enforce the laws we have right now,� Pelosi said at her weekly news conference. �I think it's clear the Bush administration didn�t do that.�

Which un-enforced laws is she referring to?

Not the ones about presidents having to be citizens, or the ethics ones about paying income taxes, or the ones about people not raising money to be appointed senators.

<SLV> 02-26-2009 09:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AurumAg (Post 1596037)
�On that score, I think we need to enforce the laws we have right now,� Pelosi said at her weekly news conference. �I think it's clear the Bush administration didn�t do that.�

Which un-enforced laws is she referring to?

No kidding. The BATF is famous for reinterpreting the law at a whim and winning all of their cases.

TomD 02-26-2009 10:48 PM

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The Dems are giddy and close to drunk with their new found power. They assume that they are now ascendant, able to accomplish simultaneously all of their aims. A few of them remember the reaction to the 1993 ban. Even Clinton admits that it was principly that ban that cost them their power for 12 years.

Guns are the tripwire for America. I fully believe and hope that whichever group really lays the cards on the table in an effort to disarm us will find that they have made a huge error.

MOD1 02-26-2009 11:27 PM

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I don't trust anyone in Washington and I don't believe anything that our legislators say. We all know what their endgame is.
Take care,
Mod1

JJ_ 02-27-2009 12:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 1596372)
No kidding. The BATF is famous for reinterpreting the law at a whim and winning all of their cases.


stole my thunder brother.....

morganchaser 02-27-2009 02:42 AM

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At first, my reaction to the idea of "testing the waters" was: "WTF did they think people's reaction would be?" and then I realized: They are seeing how the liberals and centrists(swing votes) will react. So much for bi-partisanship.

moreair 02-27-2009 03:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 1596331)
BINGO. They don't want a run on firearms like they saw from the election scare. You can bet they are working on it behind the scenes quietly. Just like I got a call at 6:00 a.m. in the morning commanding me to shut down my penny business -- no warning at all.


The run on firearms & ammunition never stopped.

mk3hunter 02-27-2009 11:22 AM

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Re: Pelosi throws cold water on weapons ban
thats because this bitch wants her job.....

The Argent Dragon 02-27-2009 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mk3hunter (Post 1597374)
thats because this bitch wants her job.....

:111:.........SELL-OUT..........:cry1:

<SLV> 02-27-2009 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by moreair (Post 1596787)
The run on firearms & ammunition never stopped.

I'm actually seeing prices on SKSs falling back under $300 (on the street -- dealers still want $300-$400).

ImaCannin 02-27-2009 12:18 PM

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They are going to put parts of the gun bill in several different bills. Like the child safer act say a person under 18 can no longer own or use a gun. Under that health bill it says that anyone who has pts or mental problems can't own a gun. Also, they will stop sending out those yellow forms that have to be filled out when you buy a gun. On that form it says you can not make a copy, have to use the original fed issuied. So one bill might not be passed for all gun bands but bits and pieces in every other bill.

EE_ 02-27-2009 12:23 PM

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http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/6911.jpg
Don't mess with Mistress Pelosi!

eyeofliberty 02-27-2009 12:38 PM

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Why bother with the guns when you can just go after the ammo?

Make no mistake about it, one way or another, they will be trying to infringe your right to protect yourselves.

Wait for it.

Or rather, prepare for it.

Unclad Lad 03-01-2009 02:25 AM

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I doubt this was Pelosi's idea. If you only watched the presidential campaign last year, you might have missed that a fair number of the Democrats elected came out in support of gun rights, the 2A, and are even long standing members of the NRA (which puts them in better standing than John McCain ever was). The 30 or 40 of them who campaigned that way went to Madam Speaker and said that if this reached a vote on the floor it would be defeated. Pelosi might remember 1994, but more to the point, she does not want to be held responsible for a Democratic House saying NO to the Obamassiah.

Things will change the next time a conservative leaves the SCOTUS.

Phaedrus 03-01-2009 11:49 AM

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It's Eric Holder, the Attorney General.

He's a gun-grabber and spoke on his intended policy without consulting Obama first.

It's not the first time he's inserted his foot-in-mouth the last month. Eric Holder is Obama's Andrew Young:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Young

Democrats will not benefit by getting in a legislative "fight" with gun owners. Pelosi knows this and even perhaps Obama.

Eric Holder is the worst pick for AG that Obama could make, IMO. All of the damn problems we have, and he wants to start gun-ban legislation fights - without consulting Obama and Congress first!

This country is so screwed.

Phaedrus 03-01-2009 11:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eyeofliberty (Post 1597528)
Why bother with the guns when you can just go after the ammo?

Make no mistake about it, one way or another, they will be trying to infringe your right to protect yourselves.

Wait for it.

Or rather, prepare for it.

State Dept Floating Ammo Import Ban
http://virginiashootingsportsassocia...mo-import.html


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